Thirty years ago, I was one of the first 300 or so web designers on planet Earth. By the time I closed my business in 2009, I had amassed a website with an incredible amount of originally written content about the industry, and a huge portfolio of designs. The website sat untouched for a few years until I shut it all down and gave up the domain. Then a few years ago, I searched my old business name, and I was absolutely astonished to find some person in Asia had copied all of my writing, and all of my gallery images and replicated it as their own business with a similar name. I think that was the moment as an artist and a writer that I realized I had absolutely no rights my own creativity in this global marketplace. I also assume that the hundreds of articles I wrote on topics related to web design and interface design, graphic design, and all that… probably already have been sucked up into the AI system
Let me ask you a question, though, would any of this be better if we at least had a universal basic income? I think it might help if the AI overlords were forced to share the profits of their thievery, because it would allow humans to survive. I am going to keep writing and creating regardless - but UBI would at least keep a roof over my head.
Excellent points! Yours is a very clear example of theft - and international. This is a double whammy I think as AI sucks-up info/creations from everywhere with no attention to source, IP or compensation (as you note) but then sells it back to all through subscriptions - to use your own & others info. We need some rules backed by Policy and Laws. Can we get to UBI? ummm ... I think we have a greed problem.
I wonder what the CEO of Glaxosmithkline thinks of this idea. as usual tech billionaires don't see the full picture. they think just because they can create a cool service, they understand everything about everything
Of course they want to do away with IP protection. The grift just continues to build their web of deceit, theft, advantage, to enhance their position to and hasten the destruction of our government.
I developed real estate in Asia between 2003-2010. One of my projects in development was a building on the fringe of The Bund in Shanghai. I worked for months with the government officials in charge of the district.
Reports, proposed project financials, architectural plans and renderings. Entertaining the officials up the chain of command included endless dinners, Bijou shots with shouts of gambai, karaoke parlors…one was decorated to look like a southern plantation home…topped off by watching some pour coke into a glass of $150 bottle of red Bordeaux. It would have been laughable if it wasn’t happening before my eyes…the first time I witnessed soda being poured into expensive wine or liquor I was aghast and horrified. However, those interactions provided a ton of insight into the culture I had immersed myself in.
When 2008 hit and the financial markets were in disarray, they casually hit me up for a million dollars cash-American-as a show of good faith to continue the government approval process. The brazenness of ask just rocked me back. There was no way I was going to allow myself or ask my investors get extorted like that especially because of the market conditions and the cash was an “off market” cost that could not be justified…not to mention that Foreign Corrupt Practices Act was in force and being prosecuted by the US government.
Attempts to negotiate the return of my IP, some form of compensation for the use of the IP, restriction against its use all were rejected. I did not see one penny or recognition from the government for the use of my team’s efforts.
Bottom line, I didn’t go through with the project, but all of my IP was utilized for that project that was built some years later by a local developer.
I suppose now with the US looking for complete open source we become more like China…without the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act in play what I experienced will come with no repercussions. Nice going guys!!!
Why is it taken as a foregone conclusion that AI is incapable of creating its own intellectual property? Why do we not grant copyrights on human/AI hybrid works? Or perhaps even on standalone AI works?
There's a fundamental error in the concept that AI being trained on human knowledge is somehow unethical, or "stealing." This is exactly what humans do when they go to university to study or quote the works of other authors. When we consider someone to be "intelligent," we mean that they have studied and understood a lot of other people's work.
It's not just music and sampling. Remixing is the core of creativity. Everything is a remix, whether that happens in a human brain or in a language model.
Fundamentally, long before AI ever showed up capitalism was already exploiting IP, and only the corporations with the deepest pockets were able to fully enforce their copyrights. No one ever worried about plagiarizing some obscure author, but heaven help you if you plagiarize Disney.
There's a more fundamental issue. Culture has always borrowed from other cultures and cross-pollinated. The idea of walling off knowledge behind copyrights, paywalls or cultural barriers is fundamentally anti-human and anti-evolution.
Yes we have to figure out how to get creators paid even in the age of AI. But that's a governance issue, similar to discussions about universal healthcare or universal basic income. We should support creators, as a society, as a matter of law and custom, since creativity is at the core of civilization itself. That doesn't mean making their work exclusive or walling it off from AI. Increasingly, as AI becomes the repository of more and more knowledge and expertise, if it doesn't know about your work, you won't exist.
We are transitioning out into #anarchitecture the world is heterogenous, ai will allow it to be even more so. What a time to be alive, now that so many things and occurrences can be deemed possible. #mxtm
Thirty years ago, I was one of the first 300 or so web designers on planet Earth. By the time I closed my business in 2009, I had amassed a website with an incredible amount of originally written content about the industry, and a huge portfolio of designs. The website sat untouched for a few years until I shut it all down and gave up the domain. Then a few years ago, I searched my old business name, and I was absolutely astonished to find some person in Asia had copied all of my writing, and all of my gallery images and replicated it as their own business with a similar name. I think that was the moment as an artist and a writer that I realized I had absolutely no rights my own creativity in this global marketplace. I also assume that the hundreds of articles I wrote on topics related to web design and interface design, graphic design, and all that… probably already have been sucked up into the AI system
Let me ask you a question, though, would any of this be better if we at least had a universal basic income? I think it might help if the AI overlords were forced to share the profits of their thievery, because it would allow humans to survive. I am going to keep writing and creating regardless - but UBI would at least keep a roof over my head.
Excellent points! Yours is a very clear example of theft - and international. This is a double whammy I think as AI sucks-up info/creations from everywhere with no attention to source, IP or compensation (as you note) but then sells it back to all through subscriptions - to use your own & others info. We need some rules backed by Policy and Laws. Can we get to UBI? ummm ... I think we have a greed problem.
So no IP on property you want to use without paying for but IP rights on whatever you create using that IP. These Tech Billionaires are too much
I wonder what the CEO of Glaxosmithkline thinks of this idea. as usual tech billionaires don't see the full picture. they think just because they can create a cool service, they understand everything about everything
Of course they want to do away with IP protection. The grift just continues to build their web of deceit, theft, advantage, to enhance their position to and hasten the destruction of our government.
I developed real estate in Asia between 2003-2010. One of my projects in development was a building on the fringe of The Bund in Shanghai. I worked for months with the government officials in charge of the district.
Reports, proposed project financials, architectural plans and renderings. Entertaining the officials up the chain of command included endless dinners, Bijou shots with shouts of gambai, karaoke parlors…one was decorated to look like a southern plantation home…topped off by watching some pour coke into a glass of $150 bottle of red Bordeaux. It would have been laughable if it wasn’t happening before my eyes…the first time I witnessed soda being poured into expensive wine or liquor I was aghast and horrified. However, those interactions provided a ton of insight into the culture I had immersed myself in.
When 2008 hit and the financial markets were in disarray, they casually hit me up for a million dollars cash-American-as a show of good faith to continue the government approval process. The brazenness of ask just rocked me back. There was no way I was going to allow myself or ask my investors get extorted like that especially because of the market conditions and the cash was an “off market” cost that could not be justified…not to mention that Foreign Corrupt Practices Act was in force and being prosecuted by the US government.
Attempts to negotiate the return of my IP, some form of compensation for the use of the IP, restriction against its use all were rejected. I did not see one penny or recognition from the government for the use of my team’s efforts.
Bottom line, I didn’t go through with the project, but all of my IP was utilized for that project that was built some years later by a local developer.
I suppose now with the US looking for complete open source we become more like China…without the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act in play what I experienced will come with no repercussions. Nice going guys!!!
Why is it taken as a foregone conclusion that AI is incapable of creating its own intellectual property? Why do we not grant copyrights on human/AI hybrid works? Or perhaps even on standalone AI works?
There's a fundamental error in the concept that AI being trained on human knowledge is somehow unethical, or "stealing." This is exactly what humans do when they go to university to study or quote the works of other authors. When we consider someone to be "intelligent," we mean that they have studied and understood a lot of other people's work.
It's not just music and sampling. Remixing is the core of creativity. Everything is a remix, whether that happens in a human brain or in a language model.
Fundamentally, long before AI ever showed up capitalism was already exploiting IP, and only the corporations with the deepest pockets were able to fully enforce their copyrights. No one ever worried about plagiarizing some obscure author, but heaven help you if you plagiarize Disney.
There's a more fundamental issue. Culture has always borrowed from other cultures and cross-pollinated. The idea of walling off knowledge behind copyrights, paywalls or cultural barriers is fundamentally anti-human and anti-evolution.
Yes we have to figure out how to get creators paid even in the age of AI. But that's a governance issue, similar to discussions about universal healthcare or universal basic income. We should support creators, as a society, as a matter of law and custom, since creativity is at the core of civilization itself. That doesn't mean making their work exclusive or walling it off from AI. Increasingly, as AI becomes the repository of more and more knowledge and expertise, if it doesn't know about your work, you won't exist.
That's where we're headed.
We are transitioning out into #anarchitecture the world is heterogenous, ai will allow it to be even more so. What a time to be alive, now that so many things and occurrences can be deemed possible. #mxtm