I disagree on almost every level here and I am a Gavin supporter. How do you think I feel as a Black person around due process. My God I can’t believe you do not understand the history here. Gavin was absolutely right to say don’t get distracted as White Supremacists do what they always do weaponize cases. The connection to Due Process:
This reflects a tension: using one criminal case to influence policy can erode public understanding of due process. Due process means every individual is judged fairly, not based on group identity. So when cases are politicized, it risks undermining that principle—especially for communities (Black, brown, immigrant) historically denied fair treatment. I can walk into a store today and be shot or arrested and deprived of my right to due process because a White person may accuse me of stealing. I am always aware of my surroundings and what I need to say.
Here is what I commit to memory- and how I educate my family and who to contact in case your rights are violated ( carry in wallet at all times).
Mike, what Gavin stated (distraction) should not have been so hyped. Lack of due process happens so often to folks like me and many Black and Brown folks. Good that you recognize it but I just wanted to share that it is not JUST Abrego Garcia as difficult as his case is as much as I want him back in Maryland. Gavin wanted us to see that his case is not isolated. How can we strengthen, help inform others to recognize what needs to be done in the courts and help everyday citizens know their rights around due process and what questions each person should ask if they are detained unlawfully. That’s all.
This just seems like a completely unfair comparison. This is the Supreme Court and the Executive Branch of the United States. Two of the three core institutions of our republic and you're comparing the matter to being no ethically difference than due process violations amongst municipal and county police. Surely, there's are different domains of concern. And we can both agree that any Fourth and Fifth amendment violations are a problem that require remediation through our justice system. But I just think it's completely bizarre to pretend that these are the same things.
You referred Gavin’s use of “don’t get distracted by this one case”- he was not wrong. He was right. Why would he say that? Because as of early 2025, the U.S. immigration court system is managing a record-breaking backlog of approximately 3.7 million pending deportation cases. This surge reflects an 11% increase over the past year, despite immigration judges closing a historic number of cases during the same period. Abrego’s case is worthy of attention absolutely. No problem there. But you are underestimating how large this issue actually is. I don’t want folks to get distracted by this one case because White men voted overwhelmingly for mass deportation. And here it is. But the underlying causes and issues like asylum seekers are also caught up. There is a great need to help everyone that is unfairly caught up in this system.
While not all of these cases explicitly cite due process violations, due process concerns are central to many proceedings. For instance, about 1.6 million of the pending cases involve asylum seekers awaiting formal hearings or decisions Additionally, approximately 67% of individuals in these cases are navigating the complex legal process without legal representation, raising significant due process concerns . See ACLU, NYU Just Security Legal Trackers or The Vera Institute of Justice for more information on deportations and due process cases all over the country. And by the way ICE is up in force in Maryland. Know what to share with neighbors, schools, Universities (and in compliance with the law). Share ACLU Contact information-for immediate help with ICE; Deportation information- Lee Gerlent, lead attorney, ACLU, Phone: (212) 549-2500
• Address: 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor, New York, NY 10004
I seem to remember the way Gavin removed homeless encampments, raising a few due process and moral concerns along the way. Oh, and he burned their belongings. The gulf between him and Trump doesn't appear so great at times.
Mike, I think you need to forget the 2+2= 4 because although I am a paid subscriber, you're missing some issues that are far more reaching and way beyond troublesome. Of course, this is my opinion. Trump, a convicted rapist, has raped again but no one, or perhaps only a handful of the world population, are screaming out Rape, Rape!
This time, it is not E. Jean Carroll that Trump grabbed by the pussy and digitally raped per the jury. Trump is a repeat offender, but this time it is Lady Liberty. Trump, in his coup (yes, Bill Maher's forecast that Trump's actions equate to a coup is correct) has raped the American Constitution with the arrests of Ozturk (Tufts University doctoral student) after she wrote a perfectly sound op-ed on Israel, under Netanyahu's leadership, violating International Law, exactly as has Putin done with Ukraine- murdering men, women and children civilians while utterly causing vast destruction of buildings, business and residential, in Gaza and Ukraine, respectively.
Trump has raped Lady Liberty's 1st Amendment rights to free speech and a free press.
The five basic freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution are: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government. The attacks on the Associated Press, threats to CBS and 60 Minutes, and the planning to stop funding for PBS are all part of Trump's Manchurian presidency. Here's my analysis:
Trump has removed every key person in various departments that could obstruct or impede his plans for a takeover of the government = a coup. This is Fascism, plain and simple. The FCC chairman is now poised to attack any media that does not kiss Trump's golden hind. DOGE (Destroy Our Great Experiment) has illegally intruded into various departments and offices, including non-profit organizations, and "the band played on" (i.e., the House and Senate). Trump's bitching about "fake news" is another example of psychiatric "Projection."
Even with the mass protests that are growing larger each day, Trump will not back down. He has removed every well-trained and seasoned member of the Armed Forces so that he (Trump) can use the military against the citizens of this country if they demand the removal of Trump and his cohort of loyalists.
Instead of 2+2 = 4, spell it out to the readers of your forum. We have overwhelming evidence, or it is blatantly clear that.... It just seems to me that in the many hundreds of people I communicate with, many of whom are beyond university education, they are not seeing the picture clearly. Democracy has received a terrible blow. Will this turn into a TKO, or will Americans wake up, and in mass raise their voices against tyranny?
Stephen, I'm talking about this issue because I genuinely believe it is the greatest issue of equitable concern to my country. I think the García case is a fulcrum. I do not apologize for my focus on it. It is not about one man. It is about the continuance of democracy itself.
Exactly, so write about what is going on since Trump first took office as POTUS until the latest episode in his coup to turn Democracy into a Fascist state. Let's not lose our focus and flit from one abuse to another, from the rape of E. Jean Carroll to the rape of Lady Liberty. See the full picture. The Constitution has been violated and suffered multiple deep, gashing wounds. 1st, 5th, and 14th Amendment rights have been violated. In my profession, it would be like focusing attention on one infection after another, from bacterial endocarditis to encephalitis, from strep to shingles, but missing the underlying etiology: a markedly pathologic immune system. Until you correctly identify the unifying modus operandi of the patient's (the USA's) ills, the patient will continue to have another manifestation of this base cause.
There’s nothing funny about it, but I’m chuckling at your medical metaphors, @stephen strum. I find them really helpful in looking at this complexity. And I’m right down the road from you in Phoenix. First time I’ve seen somebody from the Rogue Valley commenting here.
I wore my Trump is a Fascist, Trump is a Rapist, etc T-shirt to a follow-up visit my wife had at the eye MD. Many spontaneously gave a thumbs up on my T-shirt's message. I fly a Slava Ukraini (Слава Україні!) flag outside my house. I have lived in the Rogue Valley since 2003 with a brief break in 2018 after a usually fatal diagnosis of light chain amyloidosis (AL) that I, a hematologist/oncologist, felt sure would end my life in a few months. I have donated half my library to the local libraries, sold or given away most of my tools, and donated a lot of good art to Habitat. Then, after researching my illness, I found two oral drugs that have put me in a complete remission since 2021. So I moved back to Oregon from Northern California, and we live in a relatively new house minutes from Phoenix. I just retired from medicine this year at age 82. I go into Phoenix a lot- to Home Depot, to Iron Skillet, to the Polish Food truck, etc. I have been politically active since my residency days at LA County-USC Medical Center (LAC-USC MC) in 1969. Good to meet you, Meri Aaron Walker. I am starting a book titled DOGE (Destroy Our Great Experiment). Perhaps you could be an illustrator for some of my ideas that would provide readers with an overview of the degree of danger this country is in due to the ascendancy of Trump and the subordination of morality and civility of the GOP, coupled with the ignorance and/or naïveté of many Americans with a failed education.
Well, glad you found something that's helping you carry on, Stephen. I'd love to have a coffee sometime soon so I can hear more about your book project. I've got a lot going on with a class I'm teaching at OLLI right now, but I should be done with it by mid-May. God willing, the nation will still be here by then . . .
I might have said "deeply disgraceful" instead of "catastrophic" failure. Otherwise you identify what is at stake perfectly. In addition to Governor Newsom, every Republican in congress should be asked on the public record to reign Trump and, if not, whether they are prepared to look those poor children in the eye and explain to them why the administration's face saving is more important than them having their father.
And let's not leave the Dem's out of this. The entire Congress is complicit in all this, it's driven by Big Banks, the Corporatocracy, and maybe Thomas Massey has some cojones, but... Seen the Chinese TikTok guy? He's spot on! We do need a revolution.
"Gavin Newsom's characterization of the Abrego García deportation as a “distraction” represents a catastrophic failure of moral clarity and constitutional understanding."
Yep, no coming back from a judgement error this bad.
You’ve clearly made an important point. In a world where public conversation generates a working democracy, the distinction you’re making is crucial. And, that said, please don’t trash Gavin Newsom. That would just be playing into the polarization forces that Trump unleashed when he ran for office the first time. Please don’t do that. You write so well and you’re gathering a conversation here that’s vitally important. When people leave comments like the woman above (i’ll never trust him again) , please pay attention to the consequences of your rhetoric. I know you don’t want to make things worse. I know you want to make things better. Please tread carefully. I’m not saying you should pull your punches, I’m saying, I applaud you drafting this clear distinction. How can you further shape the debate without trashing any of the participants?
Um... "trashing"?? Gavin Newsom is a TRAITOR. There's such a thing as being unaware of doing wrong, like in my comment below. And then there's those IN POWER who knowingly do illegal, unethical, immoral things. Newsom is one of the latter. Get that clear. This is a battle between FREEDOM and TYRANNY.
This kind of remark just plays into the cage fight morality that the Trump regime has lured us all into. You can disagree with me. I’m good with that. Turning this moment into a black and white binary and throwing names at Gavin Newsom just plays into the stupidity that Trump wants. The situation is so much more complex than that. And I’m clear about my point of view. I wouldn’t voice it unless I was.
And PS: It IS black and white when we’re talking about Extrajudicial Rendition, brain-chips, ubiquitous surveillance— in a word, TYRANNY. Wake up and DRINK the coffee, dear, because we’re half-way there if not more. I’m not stupid, and I’m fully aware of complexity, but there’s just SO MUCH space, and then there are all the people who think they’re the only ones who understand, and they’re SO self-righteous nobody can disagree with them. All the stinkies are coming out of the woodwork today!! Well, I poop in your shoes, and I pee on your couch. Take that, O Perfect One who has to insult in order to make a POINT… Where’s your good manners now? ^_^
I didn't say things weren't complex, nor am I trying to FIGHT with you. I write the way I think, and sometimes people feel I'm angry, but I'm simply very straightforward. :) You might want to just think about what is happening in our country, because we're going down (yep, I'm American, and I like my UNALIENABLE RIGHTS-- for everyone. I do believe we will recover, but it's not Trump luring us as much as it is the Globalists and their genocidal agenda (let's not leave out the CIA, either)-- you do realize these people are part of the program? Maybe you don't. I'm grandma age, and I've seen some stuff, and I am not a fool.
What I am doing is stating an OPINION, and I've been beaten up verbally MANY times for having one, treated like a murderer, so on and so forth... I'm a PEACEFUL person, but I call a traitor a freakin' traitor, it's my right to say what I think, until that right is cancelled and I am deported for it. Do you understand my point? I have no sympathy for tyrants. I know about Gavin Newsome-- I lived in SF for many years. I have no need to be KIND to any politician, verbally or otherwise, they (many of them) are fucking up my country. You can be civil, if you like, you can be a butt-kisser if you like, it's not my business. But I can do exactly as I see fit, and I have no need to be POLITE to tyrants. This ain't kindergarten, m'dear. K, good luck.
I totally get that the “law” has been biased, unfair, discriminatory to blacks and marginalized people for centuries. Yes absolutely. On this case I side with Mike. What is different here is that you have the highest court SCOTUS in a 9-0 ruling which is unusual in these partisan times being opposed by the President. This is the Executive CLEARLY (and this is the important point) clearly opposing the Judiciary. This totally upends and challenges the equality and balance of the 3 branches of Government. The point isn’t that this case, that Kilmar, is somehow more important than people who have been abused by authority before. It is that the Executive is choosing to disregard the Judiciary so blatantly. As Gandalf said to the Balrog in the Lord of the Rings, “You cannot pass”. This is the line in the sand that cannot be crossed. Please don’t say “what about all the others that have been murdered or abused before?” That is not the point. Giving up to DJT on this case opens up a slippery slope to more expansion and abuse of the Presidency and greater ease to abuse the law and to make a complete mockery of the whole judicial system. On this case we lost Democracy. We don’t have it any more. It now needs to be reclaimed.
I think Gavin is unraveling a little in the midst of the chaotic, frenzied, leaderless, decentralized CF that is the Democratic Party. Not a defense just an observation.
I disagree on almost every level here and I am a Gavin supporter. How do you think I feel as a Black person around due process. My God I can’t believe you do not understand the history here. Gavin was absolutely right to say don’t get distracted as White Supremacists do what they always do weaponize cases. The connection to Due Process:
This reflects a tension: using one criminal case to influence policy can erode public understanding of due process. Due process means every individual is judged fairly, not based on group identity. So when cases are politicized, it risks undermining that principle—especially for communities (Black, brown, immigrant) historically denied fair treatment. I can walk into a store today and be shot or arrested and deprived of my right to due process because a White person may accuse me of stealing. I am always aware of my surroundings and what I need to say.
Here is what I commit to memory- and how I educate my family and who to contact in case your rights are violated ( carry in wallet at all times).
Know What Counts as a Due Process Violation
Examples:
• No notice before being punished or fired
• No chance to tell your side of the story
• Being judged by a biased official
• Discrimination influencing the outcome
• Ignoring court orders or established rules
The president cannot ignore the Supreme Court. The end. How is this controversial?
Mike, what Gavin stated (distraction) should not have been so hyped. Lack of due process happens so often to folks like me and many Black and Brown folks. Good that you recognize it but I just wanted to share that it is not JUST Abrego Garcia as difficult as his case is as much as I want him back in Maryland. Gavin wanted us to see that his case is not isolated. How can we strengthen, help inform others to recognize what needs to be done in the courts and help everyday citizens know their rights around due process and what questions each person should ask if they are detained unlawfully. That’s all.
This just seems like a completely unfair comparison. This is the Supreme Court and the Executive Branch of the United States. Two of the three core institutions of our republic and you're comparing the matter to being no ethically difference than due process violations amongst municipal and county police. Surely, there's are different domains of concern. And we can both agree that any Fourth and Fifth amendment violations are a problem that require remediation through our justice system. But I just think it's completely bizarre to pretend that these are the same things.
You referred Gavin’s use of “don’t get distracted by this one case”- he was not wrong. He was right. Why would he say that? Because as of early 2025, the U.S. immigration court system is managing a record-breaking backlog of approximately 3.7 million pending deportation cases. This surge reflects an 11% increase over the past year, despite immigration judges closing a historic number of cases during the same period. Abrego’s case is worthy of attention absolutely. No problem there. But you are underestimating how large this issue actually is. I don’t want folks to get distracted by this one case because White men voted overwhelmingly for mass deportation. And here it is. But the underlying causes and issues like asylum seekers are also caught up. There is a great need to help everyone that is unfairly caught up in this system.
While not all of these cases explicitly cite due process violations, due process concerns are central to many proceedings. For instance, about 1.6 million of the pending cases involve asylum seekers awaiting formal hearings or decisions Additionally, approximately 67% of individuals in these cases are navigating the complex legal process without legal representation, raising significant due process concerns . See ACLU, NYU Just Security Legal Trackers or The Vera Institute of Justice for more information on deportations and due process cases all over the country. And by the way ICE is up in force in Maryland. Know what to share with neighbors, schools, Universities (and in compliance with the law). Share ACLU Contact information-for immediate help with ICE; Deportation information- Lee Gerlent, lead attorney, ACLU, Phone: (212) 549-2500
• Address: 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor, New York, NY 10004
• Website: aclu.org/contact-us
I seem to remember the way Gavin removed homeless encampments, raising a few due process and moral concerns along the way. Oh, and he burned their belongings. The gulf between him and Trump doesn't appear so great at times.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/31/california-gavin-newsom-homeless-encampmentshttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/31/california-gavin-newsom-homeless-encampments
Come on -
Mike, I think you need to forget the 2+2= 4 because although I am a paid subscriber, you're missing some issues that are far more reaching and way beyond troublesome. Of course, this is my opinion. Trump, a convicted rapist, has raped again but no one, or perhaps only a handful of the world population, are screaming out Rape, Rape!
This time, it is not E. Jean Carroll that Trump grabbed by the pussy and digitally raped per the jury. Trump is a repeat offender, but this time it is Lady Liberty. Trump, in his coup (yes, Bill Maher's forecast that Trump's actions equate to a coup is correct) has raped the American Constitution with the arrests of Ozturk (Tufts University doctoral student) after she wrote a perfectly sound op-ed on Israel, under Netanyahu's leadership, violating International Law, exactly as has Putin done with Ukraine- murdering men, women and children civilians while utterly causing vast destruction of buildings, business and residential, in Gaza and Ukraine, respectively.
Trump has raped Lady Liberty's 1st Amendment rights to free speech and a free press.
The five basic freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution are: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government. The attacks on the Associated Press, threats to CBS and 60 Minutes, and the planning to stop funding for PBS are all part of Trump's Manchurian presidency. Here's my analysis:
Trump has removed every key person in various departments that could obstruct or impede his plans for a takeover of the government = a coup. This is Fascism, plain and simple. The FCC chairman is now poised to attack any media that does not kiss Trump's golden hind. DOGE (Destroy Our Great Experiment) has illegally intruded into various departments and offices, including non-profit organizations, and "the band played on" (i.e., the House and Senate). Trump's bitching about "fake news" is another example of psychiatric "Projection."
Even with the mass protests that are growing larger each day, Trump will not back down. He has removed every well-trained and seasoned member of the Armed Forces so that he (Trump) can use the military against the citizens of this country if they demand the removal of Trump and his cohort of loyalists.
Instead of 2+2 = 4, spell it out to the readers of your forum. We have overwhelming evidence, or it is blatantly clear that.... It just seems to me that in the many hundreds of people I communicate with, many of whom are beyond university education, they are not seeing the picture clearly. Democracy has received a terrible blow. Will this turn into a TKO, or will Americans wake up, and in mass raise their voices against tyranny?
Stephen, I'm talking about this issue because I genuinely believe it is the greatest issue of equitable concern to my country. I think the García case is a fulcrum. I do not apologize for my focus on it. It is not about one man. It is about the continuance of democracy itself.
Exactly, so write about what is going on since Trump first took office as POTUS until the latest episode in his coup to turn Democracy into a Fascist state. Let's not lose our focus and flit from one abuse to another, from the rape of E. Jean Carroll to the rape of Lady Liberty. See the full picture. The Constitution has been violated and suffered multiple deep, gashing wounds. 1st, 5th, and 14th Amendment rights have been violated. In my profession, it would be like focusing attention on one infection after another, from bacterial endocarditis to encephalitis, from strep to shingles, but missing the underlying etiology: a markedly pathologic immune system. Until you correctly identify the unifying modus operandi of the patient's (the USA's) ills, the patient will continue to have another manifestation of this base cause.
There’s nothing funny about it, but I’m chuckling at your medical metaphors, @stephen strum. I find them really helpful in looking at this complexity. And I’m right down the road from you in Phoenix. First time I’ve seen somebody from the Rogue Valley commenting here.
I wore my Trump is a Fascist, Trump is a Rapist, etc T-shirt to a follow-up visit my wife had at the eye MD. Many spontaneously gave a thumbs up on my T-shirt's message. I fly a Slava Ukraini (Слава Україні!) flag outside my house. I have lived in the Rogue Valley since 2003 with a brief break in 2018 after a usually fatal diagnosis of light chain amyloidosis (AL) that I, a hematologist/oncologist, felt sure would end my life in a few months. I have donated half my library to the local libraries, sold or given away most of my tools, and donated a lot of good art to Habitat. Then, after researching my illness, I found two oral drugs that have put me in a complete remission since 2021. So I moved back to Oregon from Northern California, and we live in a relatively new house minutes from Phoenix. I just retired from medicine this year at age 82. I go into Phoenix a lot- to Home Depot, to Iron Skillet, to the Polish Food truck, etc. I have been politically active since my residency days at LA County-USC Medical Center (LAC-USC MC) in 1969. Good to meet you, Meri Aaron Walker. I am starting a book titled DOGE (Destroy Our Great Experiment). Perhaps you could be an illustrator for some of my ideas that would provide readers with an overview of the degree of danger this country is in due to the ascendancy of Trump and the subordination of morality and civility of the GOP, coupled with the ignorance and/or naïveté of many Americans with a failed education.
Well, glad you found something that's helping you carry on, Stephen. I'd love to have a coffee sometime soon so I can hear more about your book project. I've got a lot going on with a class I'm teaching at OLLI right now, but I should be done with it by mid-May. God willing, the nation will still be here by then . . .
I might have said "deeply disgraceful" instead of "catastrophic" failure. Otherwise you identify what is at stake perfectly. In addition to Governor Newsom, every Republican in congress should be asked on the public record to reign Trump and, if not, whether they are prepared to look those poor children in the eye and explain to them why the administration's face saving is more important than them having their father.
And let's not leave the Dem's out of this. The entire Congress is complicit in all this, it's driven by Big Banks, the Corporatocracy, and maybe Thomas Massey has some cojones, but... Seen the Chinese TikTok guy? He's spot on! We do need a revolution.
Sooooo disappointed in Newsom. I’ll never trust him again. Great writing.
Never trust a politician! Trust a LEADER, when you find one. ;)
"Gavin Newsom's characterization of the Abrego García deportation as a “distraction” represents a catastrophic failure of moral clarity and constitutional understanding."
Yep, no coming back from a judgement error this bad.
Even worse than Bill Maher's idiocy.
"Suffer no Copperhead."
You’ve clearly made an important point. In a world where public conversation generates a working democracy, the distinction you’re making is crucial. And, that said, please don’t trash Gavin Newsom. That would just be playing into the polarization forces that Trump unleashed when he ran for office the first time. Please don’t do that. You write so well and you’re gathering a conversation here that’s vitally important. When people leave comments like the woman above (i’ll never trust him again) , please pay attention to the consequences of your rhetoric. I know you don’t want to make things worse. I know you want to make things better. Please tread carefully. I’m not saying you should pull your punches, I’m saying, I applaud you drafting this clear distinction. How can you further shape the debate without trashing any of the participants?
Um... "trashing"?? Gavin Newsom is a TRAITOR. There's such a thing as being unaware of doing wrong, like in my comment below. And then there's those IN POWER who knowingly do illegal, unethical, immoral things. Newsom is one of the latter. Get that clear. This is a battle between FREEDOM and TYRANNY.
This kind of remark just plays into the cage fight morality that the Trump regime has lured us all into. You can disagree with me. I’m good with that. Turning this moment into a black and white binary and throwing names at Gavin Newsom just plays into the stupidity that Trump wants. The situation is so much more complex than that. And I’m clear about my point of view. I wouldn’t voice it unless I was.
And PS: It IS black and white when we’re talking about Extrajudicial Rendition, brain-chips, ubiquitous surveillance— in a word, TYRANNY. Wake up and DRINK the coffee, dear, because we’re half-way there if not more. I’m not stupid, and I’m fully aware of complexity, but there’s just SO MUCH space, and then there are all the people who think they’re the only ones who understand, and they’re SO self-righteous nobody can disagree with them. All the stinkies are coming out of the woodwork today!! Well, I poop in your shoes, and I pee on your couch. Take that, O Perfect One who has to insult in order to make a POINT… Where’s your good manners now? ^_^
Well, you have to be right. Yawn
I didn't say things weren't complex, nor am I trying to FIGHT with you. I write the way I think, and sometimes people feel I'm angry, but I'm simply very straightforward. :) You might want to just think about what is happening in our country, because we're going down (yep, I'm American, and I like my UNALIENABLE RIGHTS-- for everyone. I do believe we will recover, but it's not Trump luring us as much as it is the Globalists and their genocidal agenda (let's not leave out the CIA, either)-- you do realize these people are part of the program? Maybe you don't. I'm grandma age, and I've seen some stuff, and I am not a fool.
What I am doing is stating an OPINION, and I've been beaten up verbally MANY times for having one, treated like a murderer, so on and so forth... I'm a PEACEFUL person, but I call a traitor a freakin' traitor, it's my right to say what I think, until that right is cancelled and I am deported for it. Do you understand my point? I have no sympathy for tyrants. I know about Gavin Newsome-- I lived in SF for many years. I have no need to be KIND to any politician, verbally or otherwise, they (many of them) are fucking up my country. You can be civil, if you like, you can be a butt-kisser if you like, it's not my business. But I can do exactly as I see fit, and I have no need to be POLITE to tyrants. This ain't kindergarten, m'dear. K, good luck.
Thank you for providing us all with such clarity.
What you say is so simple, and yet so powerfully true.
I totally get that the “law” has been biased, unfair, discriminatory to blacks and marginalized people for centuries. Yes absolutely. On this case I side with Mike. What is different here is that you have the highest court SCOTUS in a 9-0 ruling which is unusual in these partisan times being opposed by the President. This is the Executive CLEARLY (and this is the important point) clearly opposing the Judiciary. This totally upends and challenges the equality and balance of the 3 branches of Government. The point isn’t that this case, that Kilmar, is somehow more important than people who have been abused by authority before. It is that the Executive is choosing to disregard the Judiciary so blatantly. As Gandalf said to the Balrog in the Lord of the Rings, “You cannot pass”. This is the line in the sand that cannot be crossed. Please don’t say “what about all the others that have been murdered or abused before?” That is not the point. Giving up to DJT on this case opens up a slippery slope to more expansion and abuse of the Presidency and greater ease to abuse the law and to make a complete mockery of the whole judicial system. On this case we lost Democracy. We don’t have it any more. It now needs to be reclaimed.
Democrats like the quisling Governor of California among others are the reason I will never donate another dime to the DNC ever again.
I think Gavin is unraveling a little in the midst of the chaotic, frenzied, leaderless, decentralized CF that is the Democratic Party. Not a defense just an observation.
I'm not sure why it's considered a bigger problem that he ignore SCOTUS orders than any federal district court's orders. It's the same problem.
Or why it's worse for Trump to ignore SCOTUS than the text. The oath isn't to SCOTUS, but to the Constitution.
Newsom likewise took an oath of office that includes supporting and defending the Constitution. Not a person.
And yet here is is calling this a distraction. The Constitution is a distraction? The law is a distraction?
Due process for *persons* is in the text. The text is what provides the basis for "innocent until proven guilty".
Too many Democrats are just weak and pathetic.
Gavin Newsome had a chance to run as a democrat in the last election, his time is over.
He’s more invested in his stupid podcast than helping LA get back to normal, I would never vote for him, there are others more responsible that him.
Newsom identified himself as not made for the moment. Impressing the fox news magas won’t help him get elected as Senator or President.
Walz and Pritzker are stepping up. Bernie and AOC, Crockett and Raskin, they are the gold standard on how to fight back.
You've done a FINE job of nailing this issue, with all attendant bits and pieces.
I was a Truther from early 2020.
I used to write HUMOR stuff, and sometimes still do... It's what keeps me sane... Cheers, good work.
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